and to have the pa dmaduro regie more responsive to the country. we haven t seen that. we ve seen it going the opposite direction. the real question is can he be removed? we don t recognize maduro now. that s the policy. that doesn t make him go away. he doesn t just disappear. john hudson, thank you so much. we just mentioned senator marco rubio s stance on all this. he is going to be with my colleague andrea mitchell in just a couple of hours. make sure to watch that. also coming up on this show, a serious warning from aviation professionals. they say the shutdown is now causing unbelievable risk to air travel. we ll hear from some faa employees. (announcer) people with type 2 diabetes are excited about the potential of once-weekly ozempic®. in a study with ozempic®, a majority of adults lowered their blood sugar and reached an a1c of less than seven and maintained it. oh! under seven? and you may lose weight.