they re saying a phone call was made. here s the full screen. in the phone call, the president asked whether jeffery berman, the united states attorney for the southern district of new york and a trump ally, could be put in charge of the widening investigation, the cohen investigation, according to several american officials with district knowledge of the call asking him, could we put my ally in charge of this cohen thing because it just went badly. in essence, according to the reading of that, making him an unindicted co conspirator. and matt whitaker just testified that the president referred to that testimony and answered the question from one of the reporters that he had not been asked to influence any decisions that the doj was being asked to make. shepard: is that the same thing though? what he said was could you put this guy in charge. could he be put in charge. the semantics matter. they do. the two potential crimes here for matt whitaker.