former president trump is believing that if he can continue to create this alternate reality where these people are martyrs and he can continue to try to convince people that an election that was free and fair and declared so by federal governments and intelligence agencies, that he can convince enough people that he is actually the person who should have rightfully been the president and these people were doing his bidding in a good way. i think the thing that really underscores all of this is the threat charlie is talking about, the threat that continues. i m reminded by an immigrant from haiti who i interviewed before january 6th and that person said president trump had a lot of supporters, and violence could really take place. democracy is fragile. he said americans might not understand that because they re from a country where democracy has worked but these things can fall apart and they can fall apart quickly this is how democracies fall apart, when people start believing the sys
all of these issues. and yet every single day, every single week, we find out more of what donald trump and his supporters were doing to overturn that election. by the way i had the same reaction yamiche had. the story of the president on the phone with the department of justice saying you just declare it corrupt, i will do the rest along with my cronies. this is the pattern and practice of this president. that january 6th was not a single discreet event that can be seen in isolation. it was the culmination of an effort by a sitting president of the united states to use his power, all the levers of power, that he understood to overturn this election to block this election. to your question, republicans have been hoping it was going to go away. they want to move on to something else, but they re not going to be able to do this. and, in part, i m increasingly optimistic this january 6th
here, but, you know, as you have noted and as we have noted over and over again, this is where this all comes back to the argument of the filibuster. yes, you have the house that s going to introduce a revised version of the john lewis voting rights act on friday, which is the anniversary of the date that president lyndon b. johnson signed the voting rights act of 1965, and you have senators who are working on a trimmed down version of the for the people act, similar to what joe manchin introduced a few weeks back, a month or two ago when the for the people act failed, and he said that he was open to some compromise there. but at the end of the day without scrapping the filibuster, the challenge is still two fold for democrats. yes, they need to craft a bill all 50 democrats will sign on to, but democrats still need to get ten votes from republicans and a party that does not believe election laws should be made at a federal level and whose electoral portions are hinged on the issue.
going to have his back, if the doj just turned over that election, those are the people that are now handed the responsibility to try to keep this democracy alive. i think that s a big open question, one that we should continue to focus on and one that is a really scary part of what s going on. it s so important. we are covering the potential demise of democracy in our own country. yamiche alcindor bringing it back to where we should be focused. and, taylor, we will keep our eyes on you. i am sorry i did not credit you properly the first time i played the interview. congratulations on it. we ll continue to call on you for your great reporting. and the great charlie sykes is sticking around a little longer. when we come back in a moment, we are living under the heightened risk of political violence. what could be going through the mind of the most powerful republican in the house of representatives when he makes comments about assaulting speaker pelosi? we will count the ways with one
has quoted james baldwin. i m going to give you the last word. i want you to speak to not what democrats should do. it is abundantly clear what democrats should do, but what the country should do. i think part of the problem is the whole impetus is on democrats. there are a whole bunch of voters out there who don t vote for the same party every election year. they typically determine which party prevails in mid-term elections, and they care a whole lot about fairness. they care a whole it is hard to vote in a mid-term, as i think you have all pointed out. there s not, you know, presidential atop the ticket race. they want to make sure that they vote, that it is counted. just talk about a new frame for this issue. we have to dare to be otherwise, nicolle. we can t keep doubling down on the old ways that brought us to now, and it seems to me folk have to muster the courage to acknowledge our failures so that