were they able to get into that phone? we re told he just didn t lock it. what s the recourse for getting into this phone? are they going to be able to and forgive me, i don t remember with the san bernardino shooting. right. were they ever able to get into the phones of that couple? eventually they were. it cost the government a lot of money. somebody came forward with a way to crack the phone so that the fbi could get the data out without locking it up forever. but that was good only for that kind of phone. we don t know what kind of phone kelley had but it s not a universal master key. was only good for that phone made at that time running that particular ios operating system. so this is a vexing and continuing problem for law enforcement. pete williams, thank you very much. pentagon correspondent hans nichols joins us now. hans, i m sure you were listening to the discussion pete and i were having about the break groun and what exactly what wrong between the pentagon and