thomas junior who was a democratic congressman a three-time mayor of baltimore. as well as her brother tom, as he was also the mayor of baltimore. like the men in her family, pelosi hadn t started in politics until she was 47 years old, after have been raised five children. that chapter of her life that pelosi credits with her tenacity and grit. she s also taking proud in her background as they washington post reporter, alan mccartney, points out that whole makers, from pelosi s era, were often overlooked and undervalued. quote, there was no flood of stories about the effect of being a parent on paul ryan and jon banner when they took the gavel. but if the house speaker spent a decade of their life as a football quarterback or navy seal, those years will certainly be mind for me need and relevance. pelosi s leadership training took place inside her home, and the experience, she and says, fundamentally changed her. joining us today to discuss pelosi s run and legacy is