are inherent in marbury versus madison are like delivering a seal when requested, because there is a separate statute, and the secretary of the state had two of the hats on and he was on one hand the direct agent of the president, and that could never be examinable by the courts, but on the other hand, the original statute had imposed all of the purely ministerial duties that had to do with the recordkeeping and delivering of documents and if you had a land deed that had a seal on it, and the person asked for it no, discretion at all, but the take-care clause, there is no statute that could impose on the president, a, a mandatory duty to engage, and the notion that when the president is meeting with the department of justice and enforce federal fraud statutes and that being ministerial strikes me as insupportable. well, i think that you are missing what i am asking. which is, i think that it is paradoxical to say that his constitutional duty to take care of the laws be fait
any moment now donald trump will be arriving at the courthouse where a three judge panel will hear arguments, can the former president be held criminally responsible for his efforts to overturn his 2020 loss or does he have immunity from prosecution. this is special coverage, i m layer ar laura coates. and i m kaitlan collins. this could ultimately change the landscape of what presidents are allowed do. trump is foregoing the campaign trail to be at these oral arguments as he claim that s has absolute immunity, that his actions constitute official acts that he took while in office. of course i was entitled as president of the united states and commander in chief to immunity. i m entitled to immunity. every president has immunity. especially one that did the job i did. i did a great job. and i wasn t working for myself, i was working for the country. i wasn t campaigning. election was long over. wasn t campaigning. i was looking for voter fraud, something that i have to
along with analysts chuck rosenberg and lisa rubin. what can we expect based on arguments put forward in advance by both sides? reporter: to set the scene, because donald trump is here in person the security has really been ramped up. there s a much greater police presence. in terms of in the courtroom, this is a long shot for donald trump, this idea that a former president can t be prosecuted for any acts whited while serving in offense, it s belied by the fact that gerald ford pardoned richard nixon. this three-judge panel is an all-female panel with two judges appointed by president biden and one appointed by former president george h.w. bush. in addition to arguing immunity, trump lawyers are also making the argument that this produce is improper under double jeopardy. ken, i need to interrupt you because the hearing is starting. let s listen in right now. our jurisdiction was challenged by an amicus. you are not questioning our collateral order jurisdiction? [indis
nbc news that jack smith has a tape of donald trump talking about a classified document he took with him from the white house. an audio recording of the former president talking to aides about iran, and a document he knew was classified. detailing a potential u.s. attack. cnn reports that according to their sources trump allegedly acknowledged that its classification limited his ability to share it. nbc news has not heard the recording but our source tells us that it was played during grand jury testimony. donald trump has denied any wrong doing. ken dilanian is with us to explain what we know. andrew weissmann is here to explain the significance. and vaughn hillyard will join us in just a moment from the campaign trail with how things are going on the road as donald trump tries to block out ron desantis. what exactly are the two men saying or not saying about this new reporting? joining me now is nbc news justice and intelligence correspondent ken dilanian. so, ken, what do
we ll get it fixed and get it fixed properly in two years. but we re going to get it fixed and fixed properly. we ll get it fixed in two years. all right. he s going to get it fixed in two years. two years. wait, but he had a chance to fix it in 2017. what did he do? well, he called the debt ceiling sacred. and 18, 19. then he urged a default. now, donald trump is back in the mushy middle, promising a big fix down the road. you know, like infrastructure, health care, and a border wall. yeah. meanwhile, ron desantis continues de-santis. i think you should. really. if i say it, you should do it, okay? willie, mika wants me to change the pronunciation of my name to joe subaru. or brzezinski. joe subaru. it s been scarborough, like, my whole life. yeah. subaru, joe subaru. iramping up for a campaign, maybe it s time for a rebrand. people love a good subaru, reliable automobile. great family car. it is odd, i have to say, that the desant