we have run this experiment many times before with moderates. thinking, well, only this time. this time we ll have the best moderate candidate we can. neil: i don t know about moderate. deference to have had to cross over, let s say chris christie. chris christie may be in exception to the rule. neil: would you put him in a camp with a shot? definitely. and i know governor christie and he is mart and savvy. he may the be exception to the rule. when you look at the last couple of election cycles, everytime the republicans have gone down the road of trying to run a moderate, whether it s bob dole, john mccain, mitt romney, they think, well, we ll be able to appeal to moderates and independents and get some crossover democrat votes and it never works. voters want a discount route.