leaders on behalf of their members and their employer. in this instance, the nurses employers the nhs. we massively value what medical professionals do. my mother was a midwife throughout her whole working life. like millions of people around the country, we have close friends and army who are medical professionals. we recognise the importance of what they do. ultimately, we ve got to make sure that we are good custodians of the public purse. as i say, negotiations are done between the unions and employers. but are done between the unions and employers- are done between the unions and emlo ers. ., ., ,, employers. but we have had the nhs director sitting employers. but we have had the nhs director sitting in employers. but we have had the nhs director sitting in the employers. but we have had the nhs director sitting in the chair employers. but we have had the nhs director sitting in the chair a - employers. but we have had the nhs director sitting in the chair a few - direc
martha: were you surprised that he seemed to give himself such distance from the entire operation? as a director sitting on top of an organization of 38,000 people, you cannot run an investigation seven layers be low you. you have to leave it to the professionals to do? martha: do you believe that? no. one of the problems that happened was precisely that they pulled the investigation up to the executive floors, and it was run. and it was bird-dog by a very small group of high-level officials. and the idea that this was seven layers below him is simply not true. martha: he also said that you told the president three times that he was not a target of the investigation. do you believe based on what we know now that the president was not to the target of crossfire hurricane? or was not one of them? i think effectively the president was being investigated. we were investigating the trump
as a director sitting on top of an organization of 38,000 people, you cannot run an investigation seven layers below you. you have to leave it to the career professionals to do. do you believe that? no. i think one of the problems with what happened was precisely that they pulled the investigation up to the executive floor, and it was run and bird dogged by a small group of high-level officials. and the idea that this was seven layers below him is simply not true. neil: and now to add fuel to the legal fire of this whole issue how the investigation started in the first place, you have the fisa providing and demanding the fbi answer questions over surveillance warrants and anything linked to initially tracking carter page. you remember him former acting attorney matthew whitaker with us right now. you know the more time that goes by, matthew, the more kinks we
repeatedly. he made extravagant claims about russian collusion evidence that turned out to not even come at the meal or team with all of its investigation did not discover. and never specified, schiff and the report came out and basically blew up the russian collusion theory. now comes this question of fisa abuse and he is still telling whoppers about that. it is amazing he has not been called out and then come of course, he gets tapped by nancy pelosi to lead impeachment inquiry, wow! shannon: what he didn t know back then, james comey with what he should or should have known with regard to the fisa applications which he had to sign off on. so chris said to him, listen you are taking responsibility. you were in charge when some of this stuff happened. so shouldn t you have known more? this is what comey said in response. as a director sitting on top of an organization of 38,000 people, you can t run an
is a director sitting on top of an organization of 38,000 people you can t run an investigation that is 7 layers below. you have to leave it to the career professionals, the special agent to do this for their lives and if a director tries to run an investigation it will get mucked up in all kinds of different ways. he is running the fbi, not managing the investigations. if this were a typical fbi criminal investigation run out of a field office in flagstaff, arizona, that is not the case. this investigation was run out of headquarters. it was an extraordinary investigation because it implicated and it was a campaign for the presidency of the united states and a leading candidate at the time they undertook this investigation. the idea the director of the fbi would not happen did not know about what is going on is remarkable. assume for the sake of discussion it is true that he didn t know, that is even worse, he should have known. he s even director, the bus is supposed to stop wi