i remind people when i was cdc director one of the things i had to do that wasn t pleasant was i had to shut down fort detrick, the army s premier laboratory for high containment pathogens. i had to shut them down because they were violating the containment rules. we don t have a rigor bio containment in many of these university labs doing this research. i think we need to call a moratorium. it shouldn t be decided by scientists but a broader group of society whether the research is of value. if it has to be done how can it be done in a safe, responsible way. bill: thank you for sharing your thoughts with us. remember the early days of covid we were running to anthony fauci to get his comments on so many things and extraordinary now four years later so much has changed. dr. robert redfield, thank you again. we ll speak soon. dana: thank you.
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