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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline Extra 20240604 07:03:00

there is no doubt about it. well actually there s been plenty of doubt and plenty of theories. my sister was dead. and did a lot of things go through my mind? yes. secrets, both suspected and imagined. is it possible that other people know more than they re saying? yes. it s certainly possible. beyond that, it s hard to say for sure. especially when it seems everyone has a story to tell. and those stories lead to accusations, often with zero proof. people are gonna believe what they wanna believe with no evidence. paradise valley arizona was home for the shacknai family, but the summers they spent in coronado were special, for dina and her son max. max loves the beach, he loved the water. he used to tell me on the way to coronado, mommy this is our place. she and maxes father jonah met in 1997.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline Extra 20240604 07:44:00

have to max s death, you have no idea what that is? i don t. but i think it should be explored. she said police never spoke with a neighbor but we did and he doesn t remember anything about a party. and max s dad, jonah shacknai, who was in the house that night said that there was no party. jonah says that he never doubted the official investigation, but wanted to rebut the theories offered by dina and others. his lawyers hired the highly regarded investigative firm, krohl, the resulting report says the evidence is consistent with an accidental, tragic fall. and there is no evidence of foul play, malice, or other non accidental ocurrents. how many people said to you, you need to let this go and move on? many. so many. even if she d wanted to move on, it really wasn t possible because dina, remember, was being sued by the family of

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline Extra 20240604 07:05:00

new. max told me about it and i said, maybe i should meet her and he said, that would be great, mommy. rebecca zahau was 32 and born in myanmar. she d moved in the u. s. in her twenties. you were okay with her spending time with max? max said he had feelings for her, he liked her. at that time i had no concerns because i trusted that jonah, based on our history, max would be safe there. and safe in coronado, where nothing bad is supposed to happen. tell the operator what is going on. hello july 11th, 2011, max was staying with his dad and rebecca. dina ws in conorado, too, at a home down the street that is when jonah called her. he said dino you have to get here right away. as rebecca explained it to police jonah had been at the gym, six-year-old max was home with her. rebecca said she heard a crash and found max on the floor near the staircase, the mansion s

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline Extra 20240604 07:06:00

heavy chandelier had fallen to the floor next to him. rebecca said max wasn t breathing, she started cpr. rebecca s 13-year-old sister xena, who was visiting, called 9-1-1. my sister is trying to resuscitate a boy. i m sorry she he can t breathe. police and paramedics arrived within minutes, jonah called dina from the hospital. when he tells me, thank god that she was able to give him cpr, i think to myself thank you , thank god. he s gonna be okay? he s gonna be okay. max was unconscious. dina and jonah took up a vigil at the hospital. jonah s brother adam flew in from his home in tennessee. you came out to support jonah? correct. how well did you know max? i knew max well. he was a really wonderful kid.

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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline Extra 20240604 08:05:00

wanted to do it. she was very strong and willed. and definitely a feminist in a way that she was all about, like i can do anything that anyone can do. and i can do it better. in 2004, leslie decided to make a change in her life. she retired from medicine and devoted her time to the church. she even studied theology. but most of all, leslie loved the outdoors. especially riding horses. i think if she had her choice she would be riding horses every day and practicing theology. i m sure she wished the days were longer. she s like super woman. yeah. their mom embraced adventure and she wanted her kids to as well. one time mom and i went, just the two of us. i had made horseback right in while. i told her i didn t want to go maybe five, six miles. she said, okay, on this trail is eight miles. you can do it. by the time it ended, it was 16 miles.

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