when there s life and light and love. and that if we can just get to the light and life and love, 51% of the time, then we are having a good day. and we are having a good era. don t let the perfect be the enemy of the good. and i think that america is a marvelous example of a human community that gets so much wrong but which knows intuitively that if you do the right thing, everybody benefits. and we have to see each other as neighbors and not as enemies. do not despair, do not give up, in the words of churchill, never, never, never give up. try john meacham, as always, thank you for being with us. i hope you and your family are having a great fourth of july weekend. that was joe s conversation with john meacham ahead of this july 4th holiday. erin o hearn picks up the coverage right now. good money. morning, john. don t go far. no holiday starting yet. good morning to you at home and welcome to msnbc s live coverage on this monday, july 4th. we begin with the latest fr
for him or scare you watching our international stars i was breaking news because in an interview with t.v. in t.v. the u.s. president joe biden as agreed when questioned that russian leader vladimir putin is a killer so let s get more in what was said now and what with it is. good afternoon just. the significance of what was said and put it into some context for us well this is incredible it s amazing it s clearly an insult but it s not just an insult it s not groundbreaking phrase in the diplomatic sense that could prove to be a catastrophe and at this point it is crucial to wait for the reaction from the kremlin to wait for what putin and his team have to say what if president putin and his administration decide that this was the u.s. . president crossing some kind of red line what if they decide not to turn a blind eye on this personal insult this really puts contacts direct contacts between the u.s. and russian leaders in jeopardy but also something that s very important
it s the independence day that they hope ukraine will someday enjoy. but it s not just americans in ukraine were so many, we heard from president vladimir zelinski, he congratulated the u.s. on and entered its independence day, and he thanked them for the billions and billions of dollars of weaponry and other material that the u.s. and other countries have been sending to the front lines, not far from where i m standing right now. but one man who didn t feel like he could congratulate the u.s. is vladimir putin. the commentary would hardly be appropriate to congratulate president biden on the fourth of july. that s normally how things go with diplomacy for a national day. a foreign head of state would congratulate and form away. it doesn t look like vladimir putin is in the mood to do that this year. and of course, dimitri pascal said that this is directly due to america s unfriendly policies. no surprises there. just a reminder on this july 4th that we should never take freedom for
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