and the airplanes wholistically, which means everything from the food cart you bring on the plane to the passengers who get on with a carry on to what s in the cargo hold. there s a group of individuals in the middle east and around the world who are plotting to try to take down an airplane. harris: it doesn t matter what our apparatus is like here in our government. what we saw with 9/11. they couldn t forecast who was going to be president or who was going to hold any job. it s an attack on america. what is so dramatic and why aviation has been a consistent threat is because of the shared human experience. everybody s gotten on a plane. if you mention we re going to take out aviation, that s where everybody gets so concerned. that per pitch waits their message of terror, fear. come join our battle front. the digital califate right now. harris: they re recruiting all over the internet. they ve got black sites. they re able to talk to each other without us even being able