was so early. why would three people be in this warehouse area at 7:52 when the first call comes in. but what do you think is behind that? well, that depends. were they just transients moving around and did they overtake this officer and take his gun and shoot him with his own gun? i haven t yet heard the results of that ballistic test. if that s the case, maybe they had warrants or were fleeing because they had drugs on them. it just was an unfortunate circumstance. but if they were there for a reason and armed themselves, it gives a whole new picture that law enforcement can start digging into. and unfortunately when you don t have dna or fingerprints, you have cameras, you have sources and you have motives. and those are the things they have to start digging into. and you think if they were there for a reason in this warehouse area at that time, it s because they might be smugglers of some kind? could be trafficking guns, could have had a shipment of drugs coming in. at all ti
been among the guests there, as well as other dignitaries. in addition to the free speech event that this was, it s also a high-profile kind of case because of someone high in politics being there as well. so it s something that the fbi and police are likely to look at to see if this was also a motivating factor for these particular gunmen to strike at that time getting close to the hour most of those people leaving and fortunately it didn t happen that way. reporter: well yeah obviously that is all part of what they re going to be looking into. was this particular event targeted. was anyone at this event a specific target. all of that information is what they have to start digging into. but at this point we don t even know the identities and the authorities don t even know the identities of these two men. it s still too dangerous for them to approach the vehicle to collect the bodies and begin the
available for review, usually in a civil case after discovery is provided. perhaps the request that was made i m not sure how it was made but their level of frustration, i think is allowing them to draw conclusions that aren t accurate. brooke you know the training is critical because a lot of times, especially when you re doing details like this one, you d have your gun on one side a taser on another side. this is something you dry run over and over again. that s something that would happen in training. if he hadn t received that training t begs the question why he was involved in this operation. there s been a lot of conversation about that. it s all detailed in that tulsa world report. it s something everyone s going to be digging into, to find out why this 73-year-old man was involved in this operation. you know they re digging now. apparently there s even a review of this entire deputy reserve program with the sheriffs department. ryan young, thank you. now to this. we r
shopping parking lot during a high shopping season. but here we have this individual buy their way into the program and participate in a violent crimes task force. this is reckless. and obviously it ended in tragedy in this situation when it did not have to. so the national sheriff s association is pushing back on allegations of buy a badge programs, which is what we re outlining here and they call them political hyperbole at best and balance chasing at worst. there are the donations, which folks from the sheriff s department have pushed back and say lots of wealthy folks give money. tell me more about the genesis of this program as you guys at the aclu see it. it s something that we re digging into. we are preparing open records requests as i speak for the five largest counties in oklahoma and we re going to be correlating donation data with reserve police programs and coming up
supremaci supremacist. we did digging into who wrote this piece and why. trace gallagher picks up the story from there from our west coast burro, trace? even before he started teaching history at northwestern university, she was activitily writing and speaking about what she calls the relationship between military veterans and ris s racism. her book is called, bring the war home, vietnam veterans ignite the radical right. the right and theaters of war, para military, the racist right from vietnam to oklahoma city. here is some of what she said shs listen.