controversial past was well documented. why didn t team trump vet him? look, chuck, i don t disagree with you and have said from day one, look, people will say sour grapes. it s not. paul was the wrong guy to bring on to the campaign. his role was supposed to come in and be the delegate hunter, make sure the delegates. the delegates needed to secure the nomination tore trump were in place. he held that job 40 years ago when reagan and ford were fighting over delegates and hadn t been involved or relevant in the republican party politics since then but was brought in, recommended by a friend to the trump campaign to come in and help with the delegates. when he came in, he was the one who started the league for the campaign and was a terrible hire. don t kid ourselves. he brought all of these problems with him when he came to the trump campaign. that doesn t mean are you convinced the only person convinced the only person with ties to rush on the trump campaign is paul manafort?
of course, the president s orbit has been rocked this week by criminal charges filed on special counsel bob mueller s investigation into russia election interference and possible collusion with americans. possibly from the trump campaign. one pleaded guilty. yesterday i spoke to corey lewandowski, trump s campaign manager during most of the campaign and almost through the convention and started reading a quote of something he said at george washington university in september. the quote was this i think of anybody, and said this, paul manafort, roger stone, rick gates or anybody else attempted to influence the outcome of the u.s. election through any means inprop through collusion, coordination or cooperation i hope they go to jail for the rest of their lives. i asked lewendowski after the indictments if he felt the same way. here s the beginning of our conversation. still holds for me, chuck,
all president trump does is take advantage, horrible advantage, of a tragedy and try to politicize and divide. the president ought to stop tweeting and start leading. the american people long for leadership. not divisiveness. not finger-pointing. not name-calling. white house today strongly denied the idea they re politicizing the tragedy, but seems it s taking less and less time these days, no matter the issue or circumstance for both sides to get into their corners. here we are. bring in tonight s panel. david ignatius, syed kapoor and cnbc contributor and former political director for the bush white house. welcome all. david, start with you. first, this diversity immigration, the diversity lottery. i m actually fairly familiar with it. one. few ways cubans could legally make it into the country. always a big deal in cuba to get the hit the lottery.