a coequal branch of legislation. didn t lessons of nixon tell you that? there s a risk here. if your congress you want to hear what he knew about the president s motive. with holding congressional aid to ukraine. you want to know why he wanted communications to be off text messages. call me, he said. and why did he call the president before responding to his fellow diplomat about the quid pro quo? if you re the president, you want a muzzle on anyone who can potentially implicate you and try to explain your intentions. one of the president s chief defenders says look, there s no need for anyone to testify at all. particularly sond land. there s no wrong doing. that s where volker was clear. why not release the transcript. so you can see what he told us. there s no wrong doing. he was completely as clear as could be. no quid pro quo.