election. is this concerning the testimony from pence s russia adviser, jennifer williams, that was provided as a supplemental written submission to the intel committee last month. what can you tell us, and is the vice president covering something up? what i can tell you is this, when jennifer williams testified in her deposition, she represented what she knew at the time. when she came back to the open hearing, she informed us during the open hearing that she had additional information to share of a classified nature that would shed more light on her recollection of events, and this pertained to that phone call between vice president pence and president zelensky. now, you ll remember ambassador sondland said that he told the vice president about the withholding of this aid, the conditionality of this aid and the president s desire to have these investigations, and the vice president said nothing basically absorbed the knowledge, didn t contest it. didn t say what are you talking
steadily. we ve seen no indication of any notes or questions from the jury, but we do know that they asked the judge to move to a larger room, which suggests they think they ll be in there for a while. they have a lot of evidence and documents to go through on these 18 charges of tax and bank fraud. ali, i think this is going to turn on whether the prosecution proved to the jury beyond a reasonable doubt that paul manafort had corrupt intent on these charges. it s obvious to everyone, and the defense really didn t contest, that manafort didn t pay all the taxes that he owed. he had money parked in foreign bank accounts that he didn t declare on his taxes. that he submitted false information to banks in the process of getting loans. but the question is did he do that with corrupt intent? did he know he was breaking the law? that s what the prosecution has to prove. there was no real smoking gun evidence to suggest that, other than the testimony of rick gates, his alleged co-conspirator,
the failure he so richly deserved from mismanaging his businesses. and kurt, quickly, before we go. there was such an interesting moment in the first debate, because donald trump s line has always been i borrowed a million from my father and i paid it off completely with interest. and that s his whole story. a million loan. he paid it off completely with interest. hillary clinton used a much bigger number in the debate. i think it might have been $14 million. 14 million. much bigger. and donald trump didn t contest it at all. he must have figured that she s got the research that has now been revealed in kurt eichenwald s article. i think actually hillary clinton was incorrect. i think it s more than $14 million. yeah. certainly if you take the amount, if just in cash it s at least 14, i think it goes higher when you then take on the loans that fred trump guaranteed, you know, the other means that were
go. there was such an interesting moment in the first debate, because donald trump s line has always been i borrowed a million from my father and i paid it off completely with interest. and that s his whole story. a million loan. he paid it off completely with interest. hillary clinton used a much bigger number in the debate. i think it might have been $14 million. 14 million. much bigger. and donald trump didn t contest it at all. he must have figured that she s got the research that has now been revealed in kurt eichenwald s article. i think actually hillary clinton was incorrect. i think it s more than $14 million. yeah. certainly if you take the amount, if just in cash it s at least 14, i think it goes higher when you then take on the loans that fred trump guaranteed, you know, the other means that were used to get money to donald trump because of his father. i mean, you re going up into 60,
the bigger question is how the issue sways voters in this crucial swing state come the first tuesday in november of 2016. again, it may not affect them so much in the caucuses. but it sure will affect it in the general election. and this is an issue where you see the iowa establishment versus outsider candidates having this tension where some candidates are now saying they want to phase it out. they want to really phase this thing out. but this is really putting pressure on them. you see with ted cruz rising in the polls, you may not have to be for the mandate this year to win the iowa caucus. that s interesting, because this is one of those stories that gets written every four years. this is the issue that matters most in iowa. every candidate, you know, runs at their own risk. john mccain back in 2000, one of the reasons he didn t contest iowa was because of this issue, and yet you re saying maybe that stigma on the republican side may be gone. right. well, look, mitt romney