to have some classification requirements, but in the time of her possession of them, there was no knowledge of their classified status. in the trump case, they were clearly classified. they were marked as classified, and he resisted efforts, including a grand jury subpoena to return them, so there s some similarities, but i don t think they are similar enough to say she should have been indicted and he shouldn t have been indicted and vice versa. and some of the evidence in this indictment comes from one of trump s own lawyers who a judge green lighted to give testimony to the grand jury, we learned about conversations that trump had with his lawyer, as the national archives were to get their records back. for example, on page 21 of this indictment, investigators are citing trump telling his lawyers, quote, i don t want nick looking through my boxes. what happens if we just don t respond at all or don t play ball with them? wouldn t it be better if we just told them we didn t have an
department run by the current president of the united states. so you know what he s implying without saying things directly. sheer the thing, congressman. trump is now the competition. the gop is supposed to be the party of law and order. we re talking about national security implications, nuclear secrets here, information that could u.s. service members at risk. yet he s not using this indictment as an opportunity to confront trump. what s he waiting for? ana, these republicans are walking right into the trump trap. it is impossible to beat donald trump by following him. if you want to beat donald trump, even though you re going to have to take some risk at first, you re going to have to try to distinguish yourself. and what a perfect opportunity for mike pence to distinguish himself. he was also investigated by a special counsel. he was cleared because he did not act with intent to violate the law. it s a perfect opportunity for him, yet he won t take it.
security correspondent julia ainsley and katherine christian, former manhattan district attorney and msnbc legal analyst. garrett, we re getting new reporting that apparently trump is having a hard time finding a lawyer ahead of the hearing tomorrow. what does that mean for the proceedings? reporter: ana, everybody involved hopes this is a pretty straightforward federal arraignment in which the president gets in and out, maybe ten minutes or so and then he s out of here. one of the things that s not entirely clear is who would be representing mr. trump in the courthouse behind me. his two late attorneys both resigned last week, friday morning fairly abruptly. they suggested there could be new counsel being hired to represent trump in florida. that counsel, if it has been hired, has not been announced yet. of course, donald trump has lots of lawyers who work for him, including some that presumably are barred in the state of
prison. so the stakes are high as far as the potential consequences. catherine christian, garrett haake, julia ainsley, thank you for this discussion. when we re back in 60 seconds, the intense security protections under way at the miami courthouse will trump will appear tomorrow. law and order for loyalty. if the goal for the 2024 gop candidates is to defeat trump, at what point do they compete against the former president instead of appearing to support him. what new polling may reveal. a story i can t stop thinking about. the miraculous survival story of four children whose plane crashed in the amazon. you re watching ana cabrera reports. stay right there. watching anaa reports. stay right there can count on. and now she s got myplan. the game changing new plan that lets her pick exactly what she wants and save on every perk. sadie s getting her plan ready for a big trip. travel pass, on. nice iphone 14 pro! cute couple. trips don t last forever. neither does summer love. s
this morning, that everyone is aware of this type of, what i would call inflammatory language coming out there. certainly while there s a high level of security at the physical sites, on the internet the people are able to get on those chambers and everyone is at risk because it only takes a few people, one lone wolf or a couple of them to react and respond to that type of information that s coming out there and creating a threat for pretty much anyone anywhere. all agencies are aware of this and are taking the precautionary efforts and on high alert based on what we re hearing. i m having flashbacks to what we heard before january 6th. and now, after what happened that day, more than a thousand people have been arrested for their acts on january 6th. do you think that will serve as a deterrent and help keep things in check for trump supporters coming for miami and beyond?