reasonable skepticism that trump but his codefendants don t have the same privilege of being a former prisoner for nauta, for de oliveira, the threat is quite real for them, is it not? it absolutely is. one thing is very interesting, i think all three of these men are facing criminal exposure and years in prison. but what is different about donald trump as a secret service protectee, i think he s got a pretty good argument about why his sentence should be served in home confinement, or some other way, other than going to a penal institution the way most people do, which is, i think, too objectionable for the secret service to have their protectee in that environment. and so, while donald trump may be able to escape incarceration, i don t see the same thing happening for his codefendants. dick, does donald trump need to be arraigned second time if there s a new superseding indictment? well, the rules say that he must be. they also provide, though, if they file a written request
cross the street to save their lives. in fact, and other telling bits of reporting from nbc news today, one close trump era ally reacted to de oliveira s indictment by responding, quote, who the hell is that? nice. barbara mcquade is a former u. s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan where she once brought significant seditious conspiracy charges against a group. dick gregorie works for the u.s. attorney s office for the southern district of florida where he successfully prosecuted some of miami s most high-profile defendants. both join me now. barbara, what is your take on this. do you get the impression that taveras is a cooperating witness at this point? yes, i do. and, you know, well operation is a bit of a turn of art when it comes to criminal law. i think we often think of it as someone who has worked out a plea deal and has agreed to cooperate. it does not appear, to me, that mr. taveras has criminal exposure, that he did everything right. he rejected the request to
of this information that now gears in this indictment. so, it seems to me that he is a witness and not a defendant here, and is likely the person who will testify at trial about these incidents. dick, what do you make of the fact that de oliveira in florida today in court, did not enter a plea? and how much do you think prosecutors are hoping to flip someone like de oliveira at some point? i think today was another delay mechanism. it is almost i m using to think that he brought a lawyer with him all the way from washington, d. c.. but in the southern district of florida, which is one of the most heavy criminal districts in the united states, a man was unable to find a lawyer within a week. this is just almost a musing. but it is also a kind of sad because mr. de oliveira is in a very difficult position. i would hope one of the first motions that he and nauta would file would be a motion for severance. if you had a real serious attorney, defense attorney, i would assume that they w
you help prosecute some of the worst of the worst, cartel bosses, as well as pennant panamanian dictator on drug charges back in the 1990s. i would never dare to compare donald trump with maria. but jack smith is now prosecuting the biggest, you know, the most high-profile defendant anyone can imagine in america, a former president. how do you think jack smith has handled this indictment, this case so far? i think everything he s done so far is as professional, and probably most professional i ve ever seen. he has written an indictment, which has so much information, and is so exacting, it has quotations. it has photographs. i don t think i ve ever seen an indictment which has been this exacting and this complete. i have to say that you couldn t do much better than he s done. barb mcquade and dick
quotations. it has photographs. i don t think i ve ever seen an indictment which has been this exacting and this complete. i have to say that you couldn t do much better than he s done. barb mcquade and dick gregorie, thank you for your analysis. appreciate it. coming up earlier this year, ron desantis was tied with donald trump for the republican