Bill perry and john, used to be the chairman joint chiefs of staff, has since passed away. They went there and said, no, this cant happen. We worked very hard to avoid it with some success. I think for right now, hillary has suggested, and what the president has supported, we need to toughen the sanctions and increase the things that are covered and try to get to the support of russia and china and japan to do that. Charlie but they have not done that yet. Not nearly as much as they can . Bill clinton they can do a lot more. That is right. North korea, it is a funny country. They are good at making missiles and bombs, and they cant bring in a rice crop because of the geography. Charlie they think having the bomb gives them more power than making rice. Bill clinton they believe that you and the news media and those of us in the political world, all over the world, all of us, we never think about them unless they misbehaved. That is what they think. And they know they cant survive withou