devicive polarizing. are they going to help or hurt in doing this. i think you re right, american people weren t too excited about the reform plan when it was first introduced. it doesn t seem to get a lot of grass roots ground swell support from conserve ranks. they were a little bit but to my point of view relatively silent. they want to talk during summer recess and support this plan tp p is not a bad thing politically under that it is already out there. seniors are already aware of it. the deficit and debt issues are out there. they are not going away. we will be talking about this as joe said. when the super committee gets together and starts to hash out the next phase of the deficit reduction plan just sign need law. so if the issue is 0u9 there and