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tonight there are new questions about missing secret service text messages around the january 6th insurrection. multiple sources telling cnn that the top watchdog at the homeland security department actually knew about those missing texts way back in may of 2021. that s more than a year before he alerted the select committee. i want to bring in cnn s kara scannell, former nixon white house counsel john dean and former fbi deputy director andrew mccabe. nice to see all of you this evening. also, he is the author of the threat how the fbi protects america in the age of terror and trump. written by our guest here tonight andrew mccabe. kara, let me begin with you here. what are you learning about these missing text messages? good evening, laura. this is new reporting from my colleagues whitney wild back home. what sources tell them is the inspector general of the department of homeland security knew as early as may of 2021 that some of these secret service text messages were m
institutions here are wholly insufficient. so the secret service has said in response to the missing agent s text, oh, well, we did our device transfer and we sent out an email to everybody and told them to back up their own texts, which is on its face absolutely ridiculous. you don t crowd source compliance in data retention. and now with these two high level dhs executives, chad wolf and ken cuccinelli, it is con rece conceivable that chad wolf left and turned in his phone and walked away. but it is inconceivable that the department of homeland security, the agent sthat goes out and advises private sector entries on how to back up their data in order to be resilient against cyber attacks, it is impossible to believe that they didn t have
one on you. you want to have information that could corroborate or undermine what they re saying. on this point, andrew, chat wolf actually claims he handed over his phone intact when he resigned in the days after the insurrection. so what questions does that raise for you if that s, in fact, the truth? well, laura, the answers we ve been given by the institutions here are wholly insufficient. so the secret service has said in response to the missing agent s text, oh, well, we did our device transfer and we sent out an email to everybody and told them to back up their own texts, which is on its face absolutely ridiculous. you don t crowd source compliance in data retention. and now with these two high level dhs executives, chad wolf and ken cuccinelli, it is con conceivable that chad wolf left the department, turned in his phone and walked away, as anybody would do. but it is inconceivable that the department of homeland security,