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resulted in the decline there so putting all of the decline on the fence is overstating it. is overstating it. we found that as well that there were a whole bunch of things behind fence there were a policy of detention it whereas illegal immigrants knew that yuma was not a place to go so they went some place else. would that be fair? yes, exactly. that s all we want, mr. kessler, thank you very much for coming on. it was a very interesting segment. next on the rundown, dr. ben carson will be be here. he out in the middle of the pack last night. he i have some questions on him on terrorism. the doctors, moments away.

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