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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180930:07:26:00

dove wanted more than just the getaway driver. he wanted everybody related to the murder. the only way to tie them together in the conspiracy was a wiretap. wiretaps are difficult to get. dove needed permission from a judge, and to get that, he needed to prove schr amount uau still in contact with tom and tom s mom. it was a catch-22. time to get creative. it was uh my experience in the narcotics section of the sheriff s department that often people throw away valuable evidence. dove asked his fellow detectives to help him because he decided to search the garbage. what did they tell you? you re crazy? the first idea was that i m starting to lose it. i m going to dig through somebody s trash. faithfully once a week on garbage pickup day dove made the hourlong journey to the

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180930:07:49:00

cold feet. i got in the house, standing in the garage and i put on a rubber glove, reached inside the door and locked it. i was chicken. i didn t do it. i went back to the car. i told t.j. the door was locked so that way it wouldn t look like i chickened out. i called tom. i told tom that the door was locked. he said he would call his mom and get back to me. according to schrauben, tom called back within minutes with a backup plan. he said his mom would go out that night and it needed to happen tonight because his mom can t take anymore. he said, if we didn t do it tonight his mom would do it. so they returned that night about 9:00. schrauben dropped t.j. off and drove around while his friend snuck inside and stabbed jack to death. we had walkie-talkies. he called when he was done and told me to pick him up. he had blood on his legs. we looked for a place to clean himself up.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180930:07:38:00

the board. okay. what was the plan? what was the nature of the mousetrap? we believed that if we did something to get these people uptight, if we were able to rattle the tree. if we were able to put fear into them maybe the police were onto them that they would talk about the murder of jack jessee. what was the little piece of cheese you put into the trap? we mailed a simple copy of the newspaper article when jack jesse was murdered anonymously to sandra jessee, tom and brett. the significance of that was they didn t know we knew about brett. and they re going to know something is up. sure enough. as soon as tom heard brett got the anonymous letter he called sandra. whoever was sending out that crap sent one to brett, too. give me a break. really. you re kidding. no.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180930:07:50:00

i believe it was a del taco with an outside place to clean up. the information he provided, if we could corroborate what he said would blow the case wide open. police questioned his friend, he said he didn t kill jesse. so he was allowed to walk. investigators focused on building their case against tom and sandra by documenting money transfers, phone calls, air travel. when you added it all together, what did you think? i thought we were starting to put together a good case. good enough that murray had tom and sandra arrested. in the summer of 2009, 11 years after the murder, the mother and son team went on trial for the murder of jack jessee. going to court was like going to my dad s funeral every day. it was. to be around people you know killed your dad was a ridiculous feeling. you can t even put into words.

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Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20180930:07:18:00

useless chatter. how many times did you listen to the interview. at least ten times. then it jumped out. right about here she was going through her day planner. she looked at one and said my son s friend. this is my son s friend. one comment that got doug s mind racing. if the bar tendser was right, could that slip of paper hold the key? doug tore through bags of evidence. there it was, the day planner seized five years earlier just after the murder. i went through the planner for a day or more. went through every piece of paper, every notation, everything put into place in the day planner was looked at. there was a small piece of note paper with the name which appeared to me at that time to say schreiber with no telephone number or significance. just schreiber? yes.

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