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Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 04:38:00

random dude. it is hard to tell exactly what he s doing, but he s on the property where a woman is murdered brutally ten hours later and we don t know who he is. the prosecutor says the defense was given this video. the defense attorneys say they never saw it and were never told about the random dude. that would have been in our closing. our whole defense was, he didn t do it. so if we can point to unknown individuals that were trying to gain access to the building, that would definitely have been used. remember, tally smith said she didn t know about the map on the video during the trial but finally learned about him from mcvay afterwards. but then, she did nothing. she didn t go to the judge. didn t go to the attorney general. and she didn t go to the defense either. she wrote a letter to bruce mcvay saying how could you do

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 04:15:00

not entering but leaving, around the back of the building. detectives matched the truck to its owner, david dooley, the janitor. and one of the workers who found michelle s body. dave dooley s truck is seen leaving the parking lot at 6:31 that morning. right after the murder? that s right. that s right. the security tape showed dooley returning to the warehouse around 7:00 a. m., detective mcvay thought it was not that he hadn t mentioned that when i first spoke. they needed to speak with dooley again, so they went to the apartment he shared with his wife, janet and dooley wasn t surprised to see them. a kind of figured it would happen, to do a follow-up. before detective mcvay even brought up, dooley told him he d gone home the morning of the murder. mcvay recorded their

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 04:16:00

conversation. i came back here, and then went back to fisher. it came back here? i can back here, yeah. i couldn t get a hold of my life, and i came home to make sure she was okay. yesterday you didn t tell me you left. why, you are just i didn t think about that. the detective also question david s wife janet separately, to see if she would tell the same story. this conversation would prove critical to the entire case. what she said is in dispute because a part of the recording is hard to hear. once the first time you saw dave after he left. was the first time i see him yesterday? yes. when you came, after he was yes, yeah. i ask her specifically if david were came home that morning, and she says no. two stahl and mcvay, janet dooley had just contradicted

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 04:25:00

and why wasn t any of the dna found at the scene a match to his. the prosecutor argued the janitor worked every day with cleaning supplies and plastic bags. together perfect for removing evidence of a crime. at the time david dooley attacked michelle in that hallway, what did he have with him? a rolling crime scene cleanup parked with a trash bag in the middle of it. it is my personal belief that when he left that blowing he took with him a bag containing all of the evidence that was missing from the scene. a cover-up so spotless only a janitor could manage it, said the prosecutor. it was only his story, she said, that was a mess. it is very hard for a person to explain how they can t tell the same story twice. and in these circumstances, we had four separate statements from him. detective mcvay testified it was only in dooley s second

Transcripts for MSNBC Dateline 20240604 04:40:00

prove his innocence. we still have a murderer out there. i am not going to shut up until dave comes home. janet dooley was confident her husband would be found not guilty in a new trial because detective mcvay s credibility was compromised after the prosecutor branded him a liar. they lie. they cheat to win. and that s what they do. michelle s sister said they were frustrated by the judge s decision. but it didn t change their minds about david dooley s guilt. after everything that s come out, you think they got the right guy? we absolutely think they have the right guy. we have no doubt about that at all. nothing that happened since the trial, nothing in the appeal has made you think maybe the jury was wrong? no. michelle just was she deserves justice. she deserves this to be we all deserve all of this to be over with. seven long years after michelle mockbee was killed, both sides had to brace themselves for a new trial. this time, there would be a new prosecutor

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