bill: impa bill: impact segment segment tonight. the sanctuary city controversy getting hotter. today, mayors from all over thev country met today. joining us now from washington, kelly cohen, who was there. what is the headline of the meeting, kelly? so the headline was about less than ten mayors from the so-called sanctuary cities. they met with the department of homeland security chiefnt john kelly to say, we are not breaking federal law. you can t take away federal funds from us. as we know, with the executive order in january, that was onede of the threats, and attorney general jeff sessions threatened that earlier this week. look, if you continue sanctuary policies, you will lose federal money, federal grants. bill: okay, so it s an unending debate. certain cities and counties say, we don t have to obey the detainer request from i.c.e.,alg to title 8, u.s. code 1324. it is pretty explicit that let me read it to the audience, we will have another segment on this.
not only here in austin but around the state of texas. and not one of them has told me they believe that the communities will be safer if anti-sanctuary city laws are passed or anything else. bill: but you will see that there are laws on the books, right?pa federal immigration laws? there are laws on the books? you will see that, correct. bill: so does the sheriff of the county, sally hernandez, have the right to make up her own law, to disregard federal law?ht i don t like it so i m going to impose my own law. does she have that power? i do not believe she is violating federal law at all. bill: she is. if i ask for a detainer from a local jurisdiction, the local jurisdiction is supposed to cooperate with the homeland security department. the detainer is a detainer request, bill. federal law does not mandate local law enforcement to detain for i.c.e. and for i.c.e. to then take them away. what this policy in travis
policy. i ve had the opportunity to talk to local law enforcement not only here in austin but around the state of texas. not one of them has told me that the communities will be safer if anti-sanctuary city laws are passed or anything else. bill: you will see that there are laws on the books, right? you will see that, correct. bill: so does the sheriff of the county, sally hernandez, have the right to make up her own law and disregard federal law? i don t like it so i m going to impose my own law. does she have that power? i do not believe she is violating any federal law at all. bill: if i ask for a detainer at a local jurisdiction, they have to cooperate with the homeland security department. the detainer is a detainer request, bill. federal law does not mandate local law enforcement to detain for i.c.e. and for i.c.e. to take them away. what this policy in travis county is has allowed the
just watch us. martha. martha: thank you, trace. joining us now with mark, sean duffy, he is supported defunding sanctuary cities. and richard fowler. welcome to both of you. good to see both of you. it is interesting, trace touched on this being financial, when he goes back to the cities and towns, they are saying, it is not that we don t necessarily want to uphold the law, it is that we don t want to get involved in the business of immigration, we don t want to incarcerate people, process them. it is a not my job argument. what do you think about that? don t take federal money if you want help federal law enforcement. it s important because there is collaboration and cooperation between the federal government, the state, the municipalities. here, donald trump are saying that he will help keep us safe. when there is a detainer request that comes up, that is a holder requested say there are some very violent individuals here
just watch us. martha. martha: thank you, trace. joining us now with mark, sean duffy, he is supported defunding sanctuary cities. and richard fowler. welcome to both of you. good to see both of you. it is interesting, trace touched on this being financial, when he goes back to the cities and towns, they are saying, it is not that we don t necessarily want to uphold the law, it is that we don t want to get involved in the business of immigration, we don t want to incarcerate people, process them. it is a not my job argument. what do you think about that? don t take federal money if you want help federal law enforcement. it s important because there is collaboration and cooperation between the federal government, the state, the municipalities. here, donald trump are saying that he will help keep us safe. when there is a detainer request that comes up, that is a holder requested say there are some very violent individuals here