certainly georgia seems the furthest advanced. the first special grand jury is finished. the d.a. is deciding whether to present charges to another grand jury that would have the authority to actually bring indictments. look, i think desantis is very clearly positioning himself to offer republican voters trumpism without trump. he is identifying himself as a kind of unreserved culture warrior, unremitting culture warrior. he s talking about the woke mob and wokeocracy, a mouthful to sell to anyone not watching fox 14 hours a day. the core message of desantis is, i will give you all the cultural confrontations that you like about trump, i will take on all of the forces in society that you think are looking down on you, and i won t trail all the baggage that trump does. i m not under investigation for hush money to a porn star. that is, i think, his corbe bet
tell us about that. governor glen youngkin from virginia is like governor desantis and traveling the country and being a national presence. he s not going as much to these early primary sfats as governor desantis is, however he s not ruling a potential presidential bid out. he was on cnbc s squawk box for example last week. he s going on another network for a town hall tomorrow to do town hall on education and major issues. he s very much trying to become a national presence in the media while meeting with donors in states like new york. governor youngkin is seen as someone who really wrote the play book for republicans going into 2021. he sort of defied expectations and won election in a blue leaning purple state like virginia, so i think a lot of republicans like chris sununu say someone like governor dplen youngkin could do very well in a
in the past, those numbers are going to be those numbers will likely jump around a lot. no question about it. and there s no question also that president trump was going to be viable for the nomination. if you are ron desantis looking at those numbers right now, you are saying i m 50/50 here. you think about the nominees of our party in the last six nomination processes. bob dole was where desantis is right now, or better. president h. w. bush was there, and george w. who is belong him or you had ronald reagan below him at this point, mitt romney and john mccain polling worse than what des desantis is. john: in 2015, it was jeb bush. and the cross tabs, more
desantis, governor desantis, who was in staten island, made this tour of philadelphia, and chicago, and other cities to talk about crime, which is strange for a governor of florida, who, unless you were going to run for president, that maybe makes some more sense. but he does, he s clearly, of all the people we ve seen so far, flirting with or getting into the race, like nikki haley, it is ron desantis who is most on the mind of donald trump. this is what you do if you re if desantis is you re trying to elevate and that should be the opposite of what trump is trying to do. it s people around trump, look, desantis is the guy they re worried about. they see that the anti-trump movement seems at least for now is coalescing around desantis. could that change? kould desantis s support fall as he steps onto the national stage and get vetted and more voters get to know him. all of that is possible. desantis is the guy right now. the more trump lashes out i agree with joe, it looks panic
but you can t tell them that it was bad. it was bad. so you have the government dictating the extent to which if teachers can teach history and how we have the and florida okay, really quickly, last few seconds we have with you. you also hold statewide teach the truth tours that are taken high school students and some of the sites of the worst racial violence in florida history. tell me about those tours. well, we take high school students, each with a parent or grandparent, to places where the blood was shed. this it s important to connect emotionally from the history. desantis is is trying to take emotion out of, history had to have we re trying to have people talk to each other, enjoy being together, and not get into blaming anyone.