counsel. here is something he said that is put into this request for him basically not to be able to say everything he wants to about the evidence in the case. he says if you go after me, i m coming after you, to argue against these restrictions. and now, the trump team says look he wasn t threatening, he was just using generalized political speech. i mean, is that a possibility? it sounds like a bit of a threat. so, sarah, the problem is that words matter and how you director matters, the context of the words matter, what you suggest that people should do matters. i think there is no greater evidence of that then january 6th. the statement that the president made at the time now certainly the indictment doesn t relate to that, but it proves the point that when you say things and you have followers that buy into things, people could get hurt. so, you have to protect the dignity of the process, the department of the process, and most importantly peoples bodily integrity. people can co
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be a jury s determination. but, you cannot excuse crimes merely by saying it is protected speech, there is nothing to see here. that is not how the process works. just real quickly, chris christie talks about this and they want to get to it. can we have the sound of chris christie. he believes trump s former white house chief of staff mark meadows is cooperating with the justice department. do you think that that is the case? i don t know. everyone wants to know and mark meadows is doing. he s been so silent, he does not seem to be loyal to trump or on team trump anymore. they seem to be worried about that. they have not seen him cooperating visibly, but, i suspect that he is. when i say cooperating, i mean he is being cooperative. i do not know if he would plead guilty and be a cooperating witness under government parlance. i suspect they would immunize him for his testimony, but the fact that we have not seen him come off suggesting that he is trying to stay under the radar.
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what the chauvin pa prove is that we can have a high-profile controversy case, you can set of rules, you can have a judge was clear about what conduct will be permitted and what will not be, and it goes forward. i think it is fair to say that the public confidence in the verdict in the chauvin case was enhanced in measurably by the fact that we got to watch the whole thing and not have to rely on secondary spin about what was going on in the courtroom. i d have to agree with you just having been there and watching people see how it unfolded. people, including the defense attorney who thought the case was fair, i do want to talk to you about donald trump himself because he is known to say wild things to make faces, and the like, he likes the camera. that s no secret. would it be a disruption, do you think, in a case like this,
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i think it makes the courts open a, gives us the impression that we know it s going on and i think we learn from it. jane, i know i was in your state in minnesota when the judge and the derek chauvin case and the murder of george floyd broke with the long-standing court rules in your state of minnesota and did decide that it was imperative that cameras belonged in the courtroom from gavel to gavel. this is something this will never did before. what would be the best argument for allowing cameras in the federal court case? i think in any case, any high-profile criminal case like this, first of all, to put a first amendment right to be there, the public does. it is not practical for most people to attend the trial. as a supreme court justice once said, we do not demand infallibility from our institutions, but it is unrealistic to expect us to have confidence in them if we cannot see what is being done.
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