when we talk about the federal power. deray arguing that this is concerning from his civil rights perspective. what else do you say about what else you have heard? criminal justice, criminal procedure and the qualified immunity issues, i think there s a lot of good stuff in judge gorsuch s background. he s skeptical about the use of federal power, including in the law enforcement context, including in some very recent immigration cases. that s obviously in the news now. let me push you on that. he seems very skeptical of the abuse of search and warrantless search. what about the police stuff that deray brought up? he s following what the supreme court says and the supreme court wholesale, we re not talking about 5-4 has not been as good on the fourth
espouses, rigid scaliaism. griswald with the right to choose and then continuing through lawrence and gay marriage case, those are the casesha a scalia originalist is saying that he hates when he says that s what he . and those cases are hanging in the balance. right. you re talking about the effort to, in some ways, use a certain philosophy, call it originalism or whatever you want, to roll back decades. i want to bring in deray and the other thing that the supreme court does is talk about things that doesn t get to be dealt with. a lot of things i don t have to tell you don t have a hearing in the first place. do you know where the issues that you ve been dealing with fit into all of this? there s the national review article where he says liberals have been addicted to the court
amendment stuff. i m hoping he can side more with a justice thomas or justice scalia was then, say, a justice alito who is more about prosecution. you can pick and choose different issues. the bottom line is, there s a lot to be asked of this candidate for the court that has not been asked and we re looking forward to the hearings to see what the senators can find out about it. paul smith, ilya, deray, thank you for joining us. neil gorsuch about to undergo the toughest grilling of his life. how will he hold up? we ll talk to one of his clerks, next. do you know who this is? a republican. yes. okay. i would say the same thing. i don t know. is it the dude that that, like what s his name, spicer? healthy, free, the world before me, the long brown path before me leading wherever i choose.
telling, because i heard you ask deray about what her demeanor was in speaking with him. this is someone who is very much who very much has the support of the african american electorate. i m on siriusxm progress. so she definitely has the support of our listenership. you hear it every day. yeah. and what i m saying is she didn t have to meet with deray to get the black vote. didn t didn t need to come on sirius xm progress to get our listeners vote. what you re hearing and what i m sure deray heard is someone who i believe is sincere about the concerns. hillary clinton brought up systemic racism in her conversation with me today before i brought it up. she brought up bigotry before i brought it up. we were critical of her in 2008. she made a not very well worded comment about lyndon johnson,
conversation you had with hillary clinton today might sound a lot like the conversation that deray mckesson had with her last week. yeah, i think it was. and blessings to you, brother deray for all your work. you know, i think it s also telling, because i heard you ask deray about what her demeanor was in speaking with him. this is someone who is very much who very much has the support of the african american electorate. i m on siriusxm progress. so she definitely has the support of our listenership. you hear it every day. yeah. and what i m saying is she didn t have to meet with deray to get the black vote. she didn t need to come on sirius xm progress to get our listeners vote. what you re hearing and what i m sure deray heard is someone who i believe is sincere about the concerns. hillary clinton brought up systemic racism in her