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and we destroyed back channels that we have between us and other foreign governments. foreign governments that we have that relationships with because we want to be able the rick ukraine phone calls. that is the pentagon s opinion. dana do you think woodward and costa reported this? that maybe they got a leak of the transcripts? do you think someone told them who was on the call exactly what happened? it is not like they would make something like this up. okay. well, all right well, i don t know if there s a transcript. i don t even know, if there are transcript. or at least there might be transcripts. i don t know how that works. i would doubt that the got a transcript. i would imagine, this is a description of what was happening in general. the accusation is quite general. could we get the facts to find out what was said and what was the chain of command? did the deputy note?

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