conference, do i submit a budget in advance or a bill after the fact? i have to tell you, you should be submitting budgets and get approvals in advance. however it s very clear after today s hearing that the current obama administration appointees at gsa have radically departed from the procedures put in place, at least during the bush administration. greta: i am surprised at the former martha johnson. she testified eye am paraphrasing, that for the rest of her life, she is going to regret that she lost this appointment. i thought to myself, that s the least of your regrets. i mean, think what have this amount of money, this culture of theft from the american people. think about that what that money could have done to people, whether it s a school or firefighter, we talk all the time about firefighters and teachers being cut. we wouldn t have to if we weren t throwing lavish parties. it s the incredible waste. there is no realization across the group of fellows that were
900,000 properties, over 3 billion square feet and over 40 million acres of lan. but many of the properties are under utilized, mismag managed or sitting empty, costing billions of dollars. you don t have to look hard. in fact, we are a few blocks from the u.s. capitol, where this building, owned by the gsa, has been sitting empty over five years. congressman john mica of the transportation and infrastructure committee wants something done about t. where are we? we are in an empty federal building that has been vacant for five years, costing the taxpayers a lot of money. as you can see, there is nobody here. reporter: and in this particular building, you said it s empty for five years. whose building is it? why is it empty? it s the people s building. it s under the control of gsa. it s costing, not just this building, but across the country, we are losing probably
elpas oh doing the same thing, traveling to the middle-east, on unauthorized trips with a passport he was not supposed to have, depositing money abroad, bringing money back. they had no idea where it was coming from and they didn t catch it over 15 years and the scam went on 3 1/2 years. you have i.c.e. and the intelligence oversight. greta: you say the word breakdown and i almost want to go ballistic. i mean not at you. but the whole idea that it is so outrageous that nobody caught this, nobody was watching. nobody cared. you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars, belonging to other people and the government said, well, it was a breakdown, we should have had better oversight. the american people should be lived. livid. you want to get mad? greta: yeah. when they submitted expense accounts, they were not required
i.c.e., pled guilt tow stealing your money. reporter: this is a monumental breakdown. number 1; you have the travel scam, a guy, acting director of intelligence, the second largest investigative agency in our government after the fbi, he is way up here. he s running this thing, right? so he has all of this underlings, when they travel, he approves their expense accounts, basically and gets a kickback for half what have they get from the government. secondly, he was billing the government for trips he never took, 11 to new york city, others, places around the country, but he didn t work. he didn t go. he took all the money for himself. he bought another house and a boat with this money. so you have that scam. but then you have the other breakdown here, which is the intelligence thing. these guys are supposed to have a periodic review. it wasn t just him at the lead. the head of intelligence in
there is another head of intelligence in el paso, doing the same thing, traveling to the middle-east ounauthorized trips with a passport, he was not supposed to have, depositing money abroad, bringing moan back to this country. they had no idea where it was coming from and they didn t catch it for over 15 years. this guy was there 28 years and this scam went on for 3 1/2 years. who is asleep at the wheel? i.c.e. travel people and the intelligence oversight,. greta: you know, you say the word breakdown and i want to go ballistic. you know? i mean not at you but just the whole idea that it is so outrammingous that nobody caught this. nobody was watching. nobody cared. you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars belonging to other people and the government says, well, it was just a breakdown. the american people should be lived. well, want only, you want to get mad? how about this? they submitted expense accounts