elpas oh doing the same thing, traveling to the middle-east, on unauthorized trips with a passport he was not supposed to have, depositing money abroad, bringing money back. they had no idea where it was coming from and they didn't catch it -- over 15 years and the scam went on 3 1/2 years. you have i.c.e. and the intelligence oversight. >> greta: you say the word breakdown and i almost want to go ballistic. i mean -- not at you. but the whole idea that it is so outrageous that nobody caught this, nobody was watching. nobody cared. you know, hundreds of thousands of dollars, belonging to other people and the government said, well, it was a breakdown, we should have had better oversight. the american people should be lived. livid. >> you want to get mad? >> greta: yeah. >> when they submitted expense accounts, they were not required