in this case to oleg deripaska, this $8 million, it really looks like that was a loan. at least it really looks like oleg deripaska expected to get that money back from manafort and rick gates. and we know that because he tried to get it back. he sued manafort and gates in the cayman islands to try get back millions of dollars he says they stole from him. they were all supposed to be investing in something together, but he said manafort and gates ran off with millions of dollars of his money. in 2015 he moved that lawsuit from the cayman islands to the u.s., to virginia. he was really going after manafort and gates for millions of dollars he said they stole from him and they needed to pay back. again, august 2015 he moves that case to virginia. once that case moves to the united states they end up deposing manafort and rick gates in that case because deripaska