of secret service communication. the agency admitted to the leading crucial tax from the day the capitol attack. the text messages themselves and many cases are gone. interesting. there are other forms of communication like teams messages, emails. i think if you look at what happened that day, you will see that there were secret service agents who were playing a hugely important very courageous role. i think that there are some who have not been forthcoming with the committee. we will learn more about that. joining me now is the congressional for the guardian and former u.s. attorney harry lippman. he is the host of talking feds podcast and legal affairs columnist for the l.a. times. your sense of how these new secret service materials might factor into wednesday s hearing? yeah, it s really interesting. we ve known for a couple of weeks know that the select committee got some microsoft teams group chats, they got more emails than they previously obtained earlier
about people in the car as trump is saying and demanding to take him to the other things he told in close proximity, dennis on rod oh his number one guy. so, the extent that there has been some uncooperative folks and some text destroyed. the committee is going to be hard-pressed. but they have a lot of volume. we don t know exactly how they used the team software, but if there is some kind of informal chatter that is happening with text then there will be a lot of information forthcoming. well, harry to your point about individuals and tony ornato has been putting off another interview with the committee. here is what one member said this weekend, take a listen. we remain deeply wanting to hear from him. the secret service indicated that they would make him available prior to his retirement. and then he coincidentally went