now on a new global initiative, exporting uncertainty. these arguments come from the very same people who espouse the virtues of american exceptionalism. and yet when it comes to the single greatest challenge we face as a planet, the american exceptionalism crowd is advocating we outsource things to china and india. or, to use another phrase, lead from behind. but the fact of the matter is this problem won t be solved unless the u.s. takes a leadership role, and the denialists know this. that is why denialism 2.0 is so devilishly clever and unquestionably dangerous. rather than resting on a principle that is fundamentally false, it rests on one that is fundamentally true. the solution is global. and by playing this game and telling the other guys to go first, denialists are essentially trying to convince americans that there isn t any possibility for a consensus. those same dead-enders who are holding their own government hostage in a play for political dwayne are threatening the ent
working with us, all we ll do is ship millions of american jobs just overseas. just last week congressman david mckinley of west virginia defending his state s dependency on big coal used the new brand of denialism to combat the obama administration s plan to carb carbon pollution. china,oscopyia, russia and europe are all expanding their use of coal. the administration is embarking now on a new global initiative, exporting uncertainty. these arguments come from the very same people who espouse the virtues of american exceptionalism. and yet when it comes to the single greatest challenge we face as a planet, the american exceptionalism crowd is advocating we outsource things to china and india. or, to use another phrase, lead from behind. but the fact of the matter is this problem won t be solved unless the u.s. takes a leadership role, and the denialists know this. that is why denialism 2.0 is so devilishly clever and unquestionably dangerous.
rather than resting on a principle that is fundamentally false, it rests on one that is fundamentally true. the solution is global. and by playing this game and telling the other guys to go first, denialists are essentially trying to convince americans that there isn t any possibility for a consensus. those same dead-enders who are holding their own government hostage in a play for political dwayne are threatening the entire global community with the exact same tactics, obstructing any kind of discussion or solution and placing blame on others. we ve all seen joining me now is kumi, the executive director of greenpeace international. we also have christina fregara who runs the climate process at the u.n. and its current incarnation and former secretary of the interior, ken salazar joining me from washington. mr. salazar, i d like to ask you first in the most blunt terms possible, is it the case that
wow. i got to looking into that, and it was some of it is criminal. you re not putting hepatitis b in an infant. that s crazy. that is a shot for sexually transmitted disease. what? in a baby? as parents, we need to be a whole lot more serious about this in being aware of what is good and what isn t. and you don t take the word of the guy that s trying to give shot about what s good and what isn t. it s pretty clear. vaccines are one of the greatest success stories of modern medicine. one that remarkably finds itself under threat in the 21st century from denialists across the political spectrum. joining me, arthur capland, professor of bioethics and director of division of medical
it was some of it is criminal. you re not putting hepatitis b in an infant. that s crazy. that is a shot for sexually transmitted disease. what? in a baby? as parents, we need to be a whole lot more serious about this in being aware of what is good and what isn t. and you don t take the word of the guy that s trying to give shot about what s good and what isn t. it s pretty clear. vaccines are one of the greatest success stories of modern medicine. one that remarkably finds itself under threat in the 21st century from denialists across the political spectrum. joining me, arthur caplan, professor of bioethics and director of division of medical ethics at new york university an langone medical center. i suppose we should start about the current state of science on this matter. get us started there. is there any reason, reasonable reason, to not get your kid vaccinated? there s a tiny set of reasons, chris. maybe your child has an egg allergy, your child may have an