caucus wants you to be. is thee easy to demon ice. 47 states and democrats are doing it. reporter: she s an easy target because she has been the point person for pushing through all of this legislation that s been unpopular. healthcare reform, financial reform, legislation that i think once people understand better they are still going to feel better about, but legislation which the democratic party megyn: when is that going to be, richard 2030. reporter: i think the biggest mistake the democrats have made after they passed healthcare they got tired of talking about it and walked away from it and the republicans kept hitting on it. but they fail to sell the merits of the healthcare bill and that is going to come back and haunt them now. i think all this stuff has an ebb and flow. if the democrats can hold on, and it s a big if, if the democratting can hold on she will be back, stronger than ever. megyn: they are going to reelect her. are you afraid of nancy pelosi.
obama, and you re starting to see. megyn: and hillary clinton. reporter: and hillary clinton is very popular too, she is secretary of state, she can t really go out and campaign. today you saw michelle obama do some campaign stops. bill clinton is traveling everywhere in the next three weeks. these are obviously the people that the democratic party is going to put forward, and the president is starting to go into campaign mode. megyn: in the same way the president is trying to demon ice karl rove. reporter: for allowing the foreign contributions. megyn: right, right the totally unproven truth. be careful because we re taking up in kelly s court whether that is defamatory. reporter: it s an interesting charge, right? megyn: only if you have a foundation for it. reporter: you have to have proof in kelly s court. megyn: karl rove is the boogie man for the democrats. is she the boogie man for the republicans, is she easy to bat around, she s been a liberal, everything the progr