the source of funds is not appropriated, mandatory would be the largest component of that, then the funds will continue to flow. the practical application of that general rule is that social security checks will go out. and any other entitlements covered by that? if it s not appropriated generally speaking, the answer is yes. and you either work for or were a member of congress at tis when youhought it was a matter of principle, when you hadolitical leverage to withhold votes on behalf of a principle you thought was important. yeah. ideologically. do you have any sympathy for democrats who believe they re doing that now under these circumstances because they believe, as a matter of principle it might beplies. but, marc, you know this and, mick, you know this. when you were doing that, you were accused of being the small base responding to activist pressure to do something that was and i suppose i would have a lot more sympathy if i had been accused at that time of bei
about never being for a shutdown where he s for a shutdown now. but there is a distinct very distinct difference. back in 2013, the republicans were trying to push a democratic president and a congress that was divided between the parties, democrats still controlled the senate, and trying to get them to accept the repeal of their signature domestic achievement, the affordable care act. this time, the democrats are trying to force the republicans. a republican president and all-republican congress, to accept the deferred action for childhood arrivals, daca, to to guarantee some protections. all sides will say they re for daca. president trump wants a bill, he says. republicans say they want to do something. since september 5th this program has been on the table, needs to be fixed. they say they ve got till march
that s where that messaging comes from. llie jackson, joining us from the brady briefing room at the white house. thanks everyone for your patience through that as well. white house calling democrats toddlers. hammering out details. joined by maxine waters. the second annual women s march happening at locations across the country. we ll take you live to some of those locations on the ground. coming up here on msnbc. i m a concrete mason.
could impact how long it takes you to receive a tax refund since the majority of irs employees could be furloughed during the shutdown. npr political scott detro and jackie combs. let me start with you. we heard from kasie and jeff how much this is firmly focused on the blame game at this point. what comes with that? what comes of that, this argument of who is responsible for what? it gives you an idea that this may last more than another 17 hours or 17 minutes here. both sides c plausibly tell their base a story that thease is buying. trump can say democrats don t want to fund our military and our border. they would prefer illegal immigrants and democrats can say trump is using kids, 700,000 kids, formerly kids, some in their 20s now, as human shields. that resonates.