plot. one way to think about this, nicole is if you look at what s been happening in this country for several years and frankly look at what happens in other countries where you have a democratic roleback, what you have is people who independent confuse the weak spot in a democracy that can be exploited. no democracy is ironclad protected against human beings who are willing to put their own interests ahead of the democracy s interest. eastman to me is that person who is smart enough to try to find what are the vulnerabilities in the american democracy? and the reality is, i think aspects the republican party had been doing this quite well for a number of years. what are the vulnerabilities, what are the vuler in nlts in terms of how we can create districting maps which entrench us in power, in which courts we can put people onto to advance our interests. now we have taken it to greater extremes, what are the