probably poor. what rand paul just said seemed more reasonable too to krooel really cut down. but so there are some reasonable ideas out there. but the wall idea seems very simple. conservatives like it. so i think you are going to hear more about the wall and this birthright citizenship idea which is ken said, i can t tell where walker is on that. one of the things we haven t talked about is donald trump s immigration plan. his immigration plan is about deporting all estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants and deporting their american born children. is his immigration plan such as it is so outrageous, not only to mention to my mind immoral and unconstitutional. is it so outrageous that no one is even discussing it seriously? well i mean you have heard different candidates address this issue of, you know, deportation. whether it s mitt romney s framing of self deportation or
american working families and their wages in a way that improve the american economy. whether talking about the 14th amendment or anything else, until we secure the border and enforce the laws woe shouldn t be talking about any other issue out there. so governor walker clear on where he stands? no and he s been all over the place on this 14th amendment, birthright citizenship issue. the median of the debate has gone to the right and the republican party and the republican presidential primary in large part because of donald trump. you know scott walker, you have to wonder if he isn t seeking to atone from some of the heat he s taking from activists over apooring to flip-flop on the 14th amendment. i m wondering whose going to propose a wall between alaska and canada or maybe a floating wall on the bering strait between alaska and russia.
very good point. he occupies the rest of that outsider space that donald trump hasn t yet encroached upon. and just by being there and doing things like attacking black lives matter for instance he keeps himself relevant because he provides something that the republican party with donald trump as its leader flooelds. which is somebody in an ethnic guise who can still deliver the same message but they can say ah this is an african american saying it. it is not just us saying black lives matter is horrible and divisive. look at this african american conservative. there s bulls always been a boom market for a ironic conservative voice that is minority. in someone who is a quote free thinking black candidate. ben carson fills that. he s not just stunt casting here. this is a guy with a considered set of conservative philosophies and believes. this isn t the ironic conservative because he s black. he s not the black friend. this is a guy who s really thought through a lot of things. and i
we in the democratic party don t have donald trump versus jeb bush and everybody throwing dirt at each other. we have a common progressive platform. bernie sanders has a very passionate and eloquent and effective way of expressing it. and he s caught the imagination of our party base and we always knew there was going to be a contest and we respect bernie sanders greatly. i specially since he s not taking the bait that my old friend andrea mitchell still tries to throw out to make us like the republicans where they are throwing dirt at each other. we re just not doing that. 61% of the poll, i believe it is the quinnipiac poll say they don t care about the e-mail issue. but it is hurting secretary clinton. i want to brick you back to 1994. and that is when then first lady hillary clinton gave her famous so called pink press conference where she discussed the white water investigation and other
donald trump s more forceful wording on the issue. it is dragging the debate into this area that is, you know, very uncomfortable for a lot of people and very uncomfortable to centerist republicans who see it as the toxic transition into the general election. you know, the power of donald trump to drag the party into this position really cannot be overstated that we are talking about this is almost exclusively because of the donald trump. he s appealing to a very real sentiment among the republican base but a sentiment that centerists and smart strategist would rather avoid. ken, thank you for being with us. perry, you are staying with us. still to come a world war ii mystery could soon be solved. treasure hunters say they found a missing train full of nazi loot.