demagogue i. bill: in the meantime, i want to get your take on this jeffrey epstein case. it went public and a big way yesterday. last night, she was on with shannon. she wrote a book on human trafficking and the epstein case. listen to what she described. i believe, given the information that i have, and what i have read, that at the very top of the food chain, they did not want to make, as the attorney general said to me when i interviewed him, they did not want to make a political mess. bill: she is framing her answer in 2008 hillary clinton s run for the white house there is a lot of political news out there what do you think is going on with this epstein matter. well, i discount all of the conspiracy theories. i think what happened is the