the american public you. level with them. you describe to them in the first act of bipartisanship ought to be go to them and say, american public, this is the problem. we can t fund obama care. both parties have been papering it over for decades. they ve realized that social security is unsustainable, medicare unsustainable. but yet when somebody like paul ryan proposes a solution to medicare it gets demagogued. the left runs ads of a paul ryan look alike pushing granny off the cliff. you know both sides demagogue. absolutely. so let s get the politics out of it. how do you do that, now, though? it s so poisoned. that s what i m trying to do. i realize people don t like dealing with numbers. but it s a financial problem. you have to start talking with numbers so you simplify it. that s what i tried to do with the white house. let s look at 30 years, decade one, decade, two decade three. 30-year total. and then let s start developing a solution menu. let s start putting up t
citizens against government waste i which of course has long term agenda cutting people in government and person says, well it is just my intuitive feeling there are too many people. if you actually, you need some data to support that. simply to say 800,000 that is a lot of people. that is the size of the third largest city. maybe drilling down and see what the people do we could come up with a better idea who could be cut if at all but let s get some data on that. martha: do you see there are things that could be trimmed. i said at very beginning that is not my martha: that they can t cut one dime here, there, everywhere. often the conversation becomes, well you just want to hurt women and children if you want to cut one dime. we re not having that discussion with data, being demagogued often by democrats. demagogued by the right. too many people. let s get rid of some of them. are that is demagoguery as well. alan would like it new york city size. i want it charlotte, size.
i think one of the things that we ve learned well as sort of sad as it is to say that newtown did not change everything, in fact it probably didn t change very much. the nine in ten support for background checks that you cited, it s an important poll number but it misses the fact that on the question of intensity people who are single-issue volters on the gun issue are overwhelmingly on the nra s side of this argument. they are not on the side of the gun control argument. and the senators in red states that are up for election in 2014 know that. and harry reid knows that. it s interesting despite all of the drama, and the excitement of president obama s state of the union address where he said, you know, where he sort of demagogued and said these people need a vote, they deserve a vote and everybody stood up and applauded that was in effect him heckling harry reid. harry reid is the guy who can
in addition to keeping the revenue on high income earners that we just passed in january, that all the republicans voted against, in addition to that, they took the obama care savings from medicare that we got by ending overpayments to private insurance companies, savings that they campaigned against and demagogued against in the fall, and this is important, they also took the obama care revenues, almost $1 trillion over 10 years, that they ve also campaigned against. so the bottom line is they got rid of the part of obama care that expands health care to 30 million people, but they kept the taxes and all the stuff that they ve run against in obama care and they can t balance their budget without obama care. so it s a total myth to say they re balancing it and getting rid of it. mr. van hollen, i m not the brightest of knife in the box, but can you explain how they
are those more important than making certain that our planes take off on time and land safely? i don t think so. bill: all right. so it s being demagogued. the issue is being demagogued. sure. bill: some might say from both sides. i m just interested in getting the fiscal house in order. now, senator rubio said something interesting and i think he believes it but he is naive. when he says that the what the american people have to understand is down the road this is going to be catastrophic. the american people don t have to understand anything. and they don t. it s a hypothetical that the country is going into bankruptcy. certainly possible but it s a hypothetical. they can t see it or feel it. so, with the press not really reporting the story honestly, and they are not. they are hyping up ray la hood s contention that they are not going to be able to put air traffic controllers in there. the press runs with that how are the american people supposed to know what the hell is goi