love to negotiate. i will go out and haggle with the guy on the corner over a hot dog. i don t even like hot dogs. if i was a democrat, i would not resist the opportunity to go to the president who so desperately wants this money for the wall and say guess what i want in return? and i would demand something really painful that i really want. we are democrats passing up on that delicious opportunity? katie: first of all, they are out of time. again, here we are in washington, d.c., up against a deadline. this big, scary, looming government shutdown. or a full government shutdown, whatever you want to say. doom and gloom. you are right, this would be an opportunity for them. we believe we do this in the next congress with nancy pelosi. when it comes to the wall, it s all political. when it comes to politics, it s more important to democrats to keep a wind from president trump because 2020 is coming. they want to take away anything he s capable of delivering on for his next campaign.