neil: he did mention a very good point that the president might be deleveraging committees that could sort out how you pay for these taxes, if that s what you have to do and by ruling out a 401 (k), by ruling out let s say a deduction for state and local tax he didn t do the latter. he s open to all of that but he then makes it more difficult to get these tax cuts. i think he makes it easier. let s take some of these things off the table the gop is negotiating among the gop. let s take these things off the table. neil: on that party very big on the deficit. charles: some of them are and here is the thing. narrow down the argument and make votes that way. i honestly believe when this is said and done i m putting my finger in there and feel the pulse of people particularly those who voted for president trump and they will end up getting rid of the state and local deductions or changing them dramatically. what are your alternatives mess around with a 401 (k)? nobody wants that.