yes. do you associate that with pain and grief and suffering? of course. you also, though, told mr. del delde la rionda under oath you had gone to the hospital, correct? he had asked me did i go to the hospital and i said yeah. so, you i know that you had said that earlier to mr. crump and to miss fulton, to give a plausible explanation to them for why you didn t go to the memorial service or the wake. is that right? yes, sir. and then when mr. de la rionda asked you about it again, you gave the same answer? yes, sir. but you knew that was a lie? yes, sir.