time of the murder and yet justice is not any closer. this week, the alabama court of criminal appeals rejected johnson s claim that prosecutors committed misconduct and so the court upheld his conviction. despite that setback, johnson still stands a chance at an entirely new trial. but alabama s governor and attorney general could easily end this all right now. the governor could pardon johnson. the attorney general could drop the case. and so far, they have not. why? what s the holdup? the reporter who helped bring this case to national attention joins us after the break. l atte joins us after the break your projects done right
johnson was eventually sentenced to death after a laughably poor case. as a former chief justice in the supreme court put it, there was no physical evidence, no eyewitness testimony, no police confession. the states case relied entirely on a woman who said that she overheard a three-way jail phone call in which a man referred to himself as toforest johnson admitted to the crime. the woman had never met mr. johnson, and she did not know his voice. but her testimony was enough for the jury to convict. it turns out that the woman was paid $5,000 for her testimony after the trial, a factor which was never disclosed to mr. johnson or his lawyers. in fact, his lawyers did not find out until 2003, and did not have proof until 2019 when the state turned over this a copy of the check and a former signed by the judge authorizing the payment of
all of those aspects of the story were true three years ago, and given a setback to mr. johnson s case, this week, when the state appeals court upheld his conviction, they remain true today. the case is far from over though. the district attorney has tried to get a new trial. alabama s governor could pardon johnson, and the attorney general could drop the case. joining us now is bradley velcro, the washington post columnist who wrote that piece for the washington post and helped johnson s case garner national attention. thank you for being hered to tonight. and thank you for bringing the story to the nation s attention. how did you get started on this? what first drew you toforest johnson s case and claims many people on death row who claim to not be there for the right reasons. part of my work on the criminal justice system, part of that is reaching out to defense attorney, and keeping in regular touch with a few of them throughout the country, and so a couple of attorneys that
washington post where he writes, as a lifelong defender of the death penalty, i do not lightly say what follows. an innocent man is trapped on alabama s death row. three jurors who voted to convict johnson have also called for the jefferson county circuit court to throw out johnson s conviction. they publicly expressed disappointment in the trial. one said, quote, when you look back at all of the stuff the jury did not know, i feel like we were used like pawns in a chess game, not even knowing we were being used. it is all very disturbing to read all of this now. johnson s defense now has ten witnesses who put him in a different part of town at the time of the murder. and yet justice is not any closer. this week, the alabama court of criminal appeals rejected johnson s claim that prosecutors committed misconduct. so, the court upheld his conviction. despite that setback, johnson still stands a chance at an entirely new trial, but alabama s governor and attorney general could easily end
done so because of that pressure. quote, they was yelling at me, you know. don t you know you can go to jail for this? and that s all i was thinking. that s all i had put in my mind, jail. i don t want to go, so after he was putting all the pressure on, me i went on and said that i was there. maybe if i would go on and say i was there, maybe all the threats and everything will end. and a quote. chambers accusations should have been painfully and obviously false. but apparently they were not. both men went to trial for capital murder. just ahead of the trial, the estate offered him immunity if he would say that to forrest johnson was the one who murdered the officer. he refused. he told his attorney quote, i see that they won t charge me if he said i did it if it were the true i would say it in the heartbeat but i am not lying for anyone, including the cops. ford s trial ended in a hung jury. that favorite acquittal. johnson story went on and the witness who told 300 lies wasn t even th