and they won t bother. eventually people won t be coming here anymore when they realize they can t get through. martha: that was laid out by the president today and strong terms. jose antonio vargas, founder and ceo of define american. thanks for being here. everything that the president laid out there is essentially part of the laws of the land. do you have any problem with anything that you said? the problem is this the president that is changing law. it is legal for people to apply by asylum, and the refugees, this is fox news. you have a responsibility between the two tell the public the difference between refugees. the central americans that are coming are applying for refugee
brandon wolf a survivor of the pulse night club shooting and the founder and ceo of define american and i have to think of who let s go daniel first. because i know that this whole thing has been very hurtful to you. well, i m sure it has. let me just let you talk. i mean, joy, i, you know, i thank you for starting off the show and here s the thing people have to understand. words do matter. especially in this day and age so i appreciate the fact that you are being open about where you were and where you are at this moment but do find it problematic i will say that we are jumping on you and by we i
it s a story of triumph and tragedy but it s not over yet. president donald trump hopefully will pardon this fine american had put him back in the ranks where he belongs, one of boxing s greatest. jesse: may be stallone could get him to pardon cohen, right? juan: take a look at this picture. it s a throwback. democrats and republicans gathered as one. four generations of american presidents and their wives was taken, the photo was taken saturday at barbara bush s funeral. former president george president george w. bush, his son, his wife laura. the younger bush has his arm around hillary clinton. president bill clinton stands behind. joining them is president obama and his wife michelle and current first lady melania trump. the only living presidents missing, jimmy carter and donald trump. it s a one-way american politics out to be. one country, one family, one people out of many. jesse: nice picture.
tucker: democratic senator dick durbin of illinois was surprisingly forth right this week about why we need mass immigration to the united states. immigrants, durbin says, provide the low paying surf labor that american employers desperately want. watch. take time you look next time go nice restaurant city of chicago. look who just cleaned the dishes off the table and when the door swings look who is in the kitchen doing dishes. by and large going to be immigrants doing those things. not many of us say to our sons and daughters i m hoping the day will come when you decide to go and pick fruit for a living. hardly ever hear that because we know it s hard, back-breaking work and immigrants do the work. so many jobs that they fill are jobs that americans aren t jumping to fill. tucker: actually fruit is picked by machines but whatever. ron eiler executive director of define american. he joins us tonight. ryan, thanks for coming on. thanks for having me,
him to the promise land. 18 was my goal. i got him to 17 and two months. all that hard work. rachel: it s such a hard. all that hard work for nothing. rachel: so many families. this is what we are learning about. i want you to take a look at this clip last night from referenced ryan he willer the executive director of define american. let s take a look at this clip. i think where we start getting into really troubled waters is when we, you know, talk more about sanctuary cities and relationships between local governments and federal governments and somehow make this more about immigrants and immigration as opposed to this really tragic and unfortunate case. in leviticus it says treat the immigrant as a citizen among you. i pay my taxes as a citizen to my local government to protect local taxpayers. and those taxpayers include