numbers are brimming off the charts. ainsley: cbo report came out yesterday afternoon. i have got a message on my phone. we were waiting to hear if it was going to be positive. it was extremely positive. it says it s going to reduce the federal deficit. it is going to eventually lower premiums. 22 million americans will not be insured in a decade. however, just as paul ryan was telling brian, it s because you can choose to opt out and you are not penalized. eric: headline numbers of the 22 million that all, you know, the whole mainstream media says oh my god 22 million people. that s over the course of a decade and by way the cbo isn t accurate with those numbers who gets insured and who doesn t. the big number, $320 billion in deficit savings, that s when is the last time you had a president that turned the deficit negative? that s been it s been a very, very long time. and then the peopl premiums thao down. first they go up. i m honestly still trying to do the math.
course of ten years. this bill has $321 billion in deficit savings. why does that matter? americans care about that. that gives them $200 billion above where the house came in and that matters because all they have to do is match up with the house deficit reduction to kind of comply with senate rules. that means senate majority leader mitch mcconnell has $200 billion over ten years to work with, to hand out to moderate senators saying that they care about opioid funding or they feel like it phases out too quickly. he has a pot of money to address their major concerns. erin, it s worth pointing out, this isn t just moderates. rand paul is on the open side side of the spectrum. he s not the only one with concerns about whether or not the regulatory cutback goes far enough. so these numbers are important. they are absolutely something that senators are working towards. most importantly, they come out and say they will not vote for a motion to move forward on the
inaccuracies. the president is working the phones and making calls to the senate. is this repeal and replace of obamacare going to go down in flames? phil mattingly is outfront. this is causing a problem for mitch mcconnell s cause when he wants to get the vote in the next 72 hours. reporter: they are not helpful. that s the most simple way you can put it. 20 million fewer insured by 2026. for people like dean heller, the nevada republican senator, susan collins of maine, they made clear before the cbo report came out that they were going to pay close attention to it. there was an assumption, based on the house number, which was 23 million, the restructured tax credit, phasing out from the affordable care act that the number may be better and it was not better. that s important. and the deficit savings over the
federal safety net that prevents people from having no health care at all. do you have to move from texas who has no social safety net. to one that has a more generous one. or treated in the emergency rooms. but it s the most expensive form of treatment and makes no sense for the country s health care. that would bankrupt us anyway. if you could go to the emergency room for strep throat or something, that would be financially intolerable. that s always been part of the argument why the federal government should be involved in this project at all, is that ultimately it s a cost saver if you re not treating people in emergency rooms for things that they can and it s up to everybody else to pay for people going to emergency rooms. this is not going to pass as it stands, right? it s hard to see how 22 million get people from being no to yes on the senate health care bill. the white house is sending out talking points this evening talking about the deficit savings, and potenti
budget office sees 22 million more people uninsured by 2026 under the senate health bill. joining us is lonnie chen, a former senior aide at the department of health and human services and also a fellow at the hoover institution. thank you for being here. dive right in. the biggest number is the deficit savings. it s important. because remember, mitch mcconnell needs votes. how did barack obama get votes when he needed them for the affordable care act? the answer is you figure out how much money you can invest in helping senators get over the finish line. if there s someone who says i need more money for the medicaid program, there s more money. i need to get people uninsured more insured, there you go. yes, the 22 million that s going to get all the headlines. people are going to be talking about that.