mentality. they really don t. i must say, i don t get it. i don t get so much on so many fronts, but the wimp factor, i really don t get. that they allow themselves to be insulted and they don t push back. they don t fight back. they let themselves get run over by this guy, and they don t make him pay, too. you ve got to make somebody pay politically, if they come after you. it s that simple. and none of them do. none of them have. and that s why he continues to run over them. you know, pete wehner, the thing i actually loved about the republican party back when i was a member, and you and i are a perfect example. we ve been good friends, we worked together on projects, but we also fought pretty tough when you were in the bush white house. i was a deficit hawk, some that worked with me would say a deficit freak, but we would have really tough back and forths. they were always thoughtful,
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agency, not a federal agency to begin with. and then secondly i don t think people will spend $600 on a hammer should be given more money. the bottom line is we don t have a revenue problem, we have a spending problem. no matter how much revenue washington, d.c. gets they spend a lot more. so i don t trust these people any more than they ve already got. leland: as evidenced by the one bipartisan agreement other than usmca at the end of this year was to spend way more money on way more things. take us back to what you do in politics in terms of fundraising and trying to message this. how much of an appetite is there for candidates who are willing to talk about this problem of overspending? well, leland: we don t hear it from the president. i m a deficit hawk and it is an issue that concerns me a lot. most of the people i talk to are concerned about economic groefmgt they want to see rising opportunity, more gdp and wages and what they are
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