i m actually a deficit hawk who s concerned about the national debt. but there s no question most conservatives are happy tonight. most conservatives got exactly what they were hoping to get from donald trump. donald trump got from congress what he desperately need said which was a win. the one thing that appears to unify every wing of the republican party and most of the conservative movement except for five or six deficit hawks that are out here, are these tax cuts. and this is going to give him a certain amount of momentum going into the end of the year among conservatives. jonathan, i guess the best way to put it is this, people on the center and certainly on the left, this has been a very troubling and upsetting time for them. they re looking for profile and courage wherever they can find them. people have been upset with mr. corker in the past few days because of his flip on the vote. susan collins of maine has been vexing to a lot of people. number one her complaint has
with members of his party to talk about their options, and they may need to come up with something on their own. house leader nancy pelosi is urging her fellow dems not to support a short-term fix, writing a letter to her caucus. coat, unless we see a respect for our values and priorities we continue to urge a strong no on the continuing resolution. washington speak for funding to keep the government lights on. here with us to talk about it tonight jonathan lemere, white house report for the associated press and animist nbc political analyst, and charlie psyches, long time conservative radio host, author of how the right lost its mind and an nbc contributor. you wrote a better than average book of being an old school conservative republican. is this a happy night for you after what happened today? well, i m the minority of a minority. i m actually a deficit hawk
we have a steeply graduated new income tax, and our new governor suggesting that increase to a marginal rate of 10.75%. i also don t like the fact that this may extend the debt and deficit in the country. i tend to be a deficit hawk. and it could boost the deficit between 1 and $1.5 trillion depending on the estimate you look at there. and chuck schumer said it would be a anchor around the ankles of republicans, and do you think it will have political impact? i think there will be many americans, john, who benefit because the standard deduction is doubled, but it s not a winning situation for all states and i don t want a situation where some states are winners and other states are losers and that s why i am voting as i am voting. the white house says that
i think the fbi association, their statement today was right on and hit the nail on the head. i would just hope and pray that the president would realize that when he speaks and tweets and he undermines the intelligence community or undermines law enforcement, that he does damage that you can t repair by simply taking back a comment. senator mark warner, thank you so much. joining us now is doug holsig, former chief of the white house council. thank you for being with us. i know you support this tax plan. tell me why it s a good plan since you ve always been a deficit hawk since i ve known you, and it s going to add at least $1.5 trillion, and if this budget deficit is added, it
funds. the massive tax cut for the wealthy. as for the carried interest, i do believe that should be taken out. as far as the fact the rich, the top 1% are going to get more dollars back, every time there s been a tax cut including under sean kennedy and ronald reagan also in corporations it is important that we make american corporations more competitive with overseas corporations. having said that, i thought should be done in a more equitable way. john kennedy had massive tax cuts for the rich and corporations. it was a large amount. and under reagan as far as the deficits, i wouldn t call myself a deficit hawk. to me under ronald reagan the deficit went up, but at the end of his term the percentage of the deficit to the gross