thank you so much from kenosha. joining me is joyce vance, nbc legal analyst. all right, joyce, let s get to you there as we ve heard from the judge. he s gotten a lot of criticism for his idiosyncrasies in court. how do you view his comments to the jury that we played? it s pretty typical for judges to make comments to a jury after a verdict comes in, thanking them for their jury service and reminding them that it doesn t matter what their verdict is, what matters is their commitment to listening to the evidence and doing their best and diligently trying to fulfill their duties. so, this wasn t that unusual. the problem is that it was the final stage of what had been a number of, if not outright efforts to put his thumb on the scale, then blunders by this judge, who didn t seem in any way committed to creating an environment where everyone who was watching the trial would believe it was fair. on many cases, he appeared to have a strong defense