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Transcripts for CNN Erin Burnett OutFront 20191217 00:50:00

mcconnell is letting the president and his legal team call the shots. just explain, professor, then, when you say the house should refuse to allow mcconnell to hold a trial like this, you re saying that schumer should be using this leverage, how can the house do this, for them to actually do what you re suggesting? well, a lot of important things aren t ease toy do. this one is relatively easy. the house should wait until mcconnell makes some reasonable agreement. if they don t, schumer should press. if there s going to be a trial there has to be one that schumer gins up on his own. you need two hands to clap. you need a prosecution. the house should wait with appointing managers until mcconnell makes steps to make it a real trial. if the house simply caves in, if schumer, who has made an entirely reasonable set of proposals, every bit as reasonable as we ve ever had, if schumer just caves to mcconnell,

Transcripts for CNN Erin Burnett OutFront 20191217 00:30:00

it hasn t been offered. if it is. i think it probably would have been smart had the democrats done that. whether there would have been support, i would have to think about it. would you support censuring? i would consider it, but i would have to consider it at that time. congressman chabot by the way was one of the house managers who helped republicans make their case to impeach president clinton. democratic congresswoman maxine waters, good to have you with me tonight, congresswoman. so at this moment of course no signs that any republican will support impeachment. do you believe congressman chabot when he says a motion to censure the president could have gotten more support? well, ichblt thoug haven t tt it. it really doesn t mean anything. the fact of the matter is we have moved forward with impeachment, the judiciary committee has put it out and it s going to be on the floor on wednesday, and we re going to vote on it, so the discussion about censure is just meaning

Transcripts for CNN Erin Burnett OutFront 20191217 00:32:00

amash, of course, was a republican, now he s an independent technically, but he s voting for the articles. would you consider him? well, i think one of the things we have to do i think you re talking about vaughan. i m talking about justin amash. this is a decision about the leadership, and while mr. phillips certainly can make a recommendation, all of the recommendations will be taken into consideration. but in the final analysis, the leadership led by nancy pelosi will make that decision so the top republican on the house judiciary committee, doug collins, obviously we saw him, we saw a lot of him last week, made this prediction about your party and his and president trump during last week s hearings. the other problem i have is it s going to be never ending, impeach him over and over again, i guess i m waiting for the committee hearing schedule in february to see what we re

Transcripts for CNN Erin Burnett OutFront 20191217 00:35:00

elected, he would lift those sanctions. he would like to do it, he s not been able to do it, but when they talk about we re just making things up, and he talks about this as a witch hunt, there are too many factsment this president will not condemn putin for hacking into the democratic national committee. will not condemn him for hacking into our election system. these are accoufacts. 17 of our intelligence agencies have said this. are these patriots, what do they think about our democracy being undermined by the president of the united states of america. if they want to say we just don t like him, they don t really care about what happened to this democracy. don t have an appreciation for the constitution and the fact that the constitution gives us the responsibility to impeach when we see this president or any president who is not go ahead for the country, who s undermining our country, who s putting us in danger, who s

Transcripts for CNN Erin Burnett OutFront 20191217 00:06:00

process to hold up the military aid to ukraine or demand the sort of quid pro quo that s alleged, that s how leaders came up with witnesses, they could clear president trump if president trump could allow them to testify. if you re going to have a fair trial. we ve got all the evidence and witnesses that were developed by the house intelligence committee through their inquiry. what we don t have is the folks the president has blocked. if the president has a defense, this would be the moment to present them, what did the president know. senator john cornyn is making the case, obviously a member of gop leadership, look, if this is what you wanted you should have had the house democrats get the testimony so it was part of the record, and i m referring obviously to mick mulvaney, john bolton, anybody else that senate democrats are now asking to hear

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